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Obama’s War: Progressive math…

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A NATO air strike is said to have killed between 70 and 130 people in the Afghan province of Kunduz. NATO say they targeted Taliban fighters who had seized two fuel tankers.Al Jazeera’s James Ba…

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How to count the number of Taliban killed in a NATO airstrike on an Afghan village:

  1. Count all the bodies
  2. Subtract those corpses under 4 feet 6 inches
  3. Notify the press.
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  1. Blackhawk187
    September 8, 2009 at 8:13 am

    A little perspective on civilian war deaths in 20th century:

    WWI: 13.6 million, over 52 months or 684 per day
    WWII: 45 million, over 72 months or 1884 per day
    Vietnam: 4 million, over 72 months or 153 per day(figures subject to further debate)
    Afghanistan: 5200-8000 coalition forces using 8k estimate, 96 months or .288 per day Soviet Union killed over 1 million civilians Soviet/Afghan war, 92 months or 28.8 per day The US total is about .01% of Soviet’s

    • charley2u
      September 8, 2009 at 8:13 pm

      I am not sure there is some maximum number of desired civilian deaths in an unnecessary war. The failure of the progressive movement to stop this outrageous assault on humanity by the Messiah is both unconscionable and an obscenity.

      To think we are now debating whether children should receive health care here at home, while their dead bodies mount in Afghanistan and Iraq, is of such insanity it staggers the mind.

  2. Blackhawk187
    September 8, 2009 at 8:54 am

    This is a piece on the new War’s ‘rules of engagement’. Any soldier that has ever fought in a war would find the logic below insane. Anyone who would defend it does not know war nor has had to faced death every day.
    ‘Blackhawk’

    “But new U.S. battle guidelines that limit shooting into or otherwise attacking buildings without ensuring there are no civilians inside have at times made the fighting more difficult.

    The rules were put into place this summer after dozens of Afghans were killed in a May battle in Farah province that ended when U.S. forces bombed a building where Taliban fighters were believed to be hiding.

    “It’s frustrating to be attacked from a building,” said Lt. Joe Hamilton of Baltimore as he scrutinized two-story village structures on the other side of dirt-and-barbed wire walls at Combat Outpost Fiddler’s Green. “You can’t shoot back because you don’t know if there are civilians there.”

    He added: “They’re more disciplined. They wait longer until we get in their kill zones, then they attack us.”

  3. Blackhawk187
    September 9, 2009 at 1:27 pm

    “I am not sure there is some minimum number of desired civilian deaths in an unnecessary war. The failure of the progressive movement to stop this outrageous assault on humanity by the Messiah is both unconscionable and an obscenity.

    To think we are now debating whether children should receive health care here at home, while their dead bodies mount in Afghanistan and Iraq, is of such insanity it staggers the mind.”

    Well, For I for one I’m glad to be responding to a ‘progressive’ who is not sure about something. So my research yesterday helped open a mind.

    Since I am intimately familiar with insanity, my mind is more flexible, thus less prone to staggering. To broaden the intellectual horizon here I would point out respectfully that confining your ‘dead bodies’ argument to Iraq or Afghanistan fails in this respect. The force of your argument is thwarted by the narrowness of your perspective. To gain a greater understanding of the word “staggering” and “dead bodies” I believe it is instructive to look at the bigger world picture.

    Approximately 4,126,000,000 people have died during the last century from all causes. If man-made mega deaths account for 185 million of them, then one out of every 22 (or 4.5%) human deaths during the 20th Century has been caused by fellow humans. One has to be open to the argument that this figure to be a great deal higher due to lack of statistic’s in less developed countries throughout the 20th century.

    As a wobbling postscript, a 1999 report by the Institute of Medicine notes that 44,000 to 98,000 Americans die as a result of medical malpractice by health care professionals. And they paid good money to be a statistic. Now that’s staggering!

    • charley2u
      September 9, 2009 at 4:27 pm

      I believe, in this regard, I am not so sanguine as you.

      You should understand I am not a “progressive” in any fashion – preferring to consider them a variant of fascism.

      The Messiah, however, is an artifact of that movement, and it should rightly be condemned for his actions until such time as it disassociates itself from him and his toadies. It applauded when he said the real fight was in Afghanistan and not Iraq. And, it is now horrified to discover he is now expanding the former war, while having yet to reduce forces in Iraq.

      You will find that your numbers offer nothing to me of any interest whatsoever. This blog has seen figures amounting to American responsibility for no less than 30 million civilian war dead, and perhaps 300 million wounded, since the end of World War II – approximately 10,000 September 11s/Pearl Harbors. This include more than one million dead in the Iraq conflict.

      This holocaust has been supported by both parties; and every variant of political opinion within both parties has cooperated to construct no less than 5000 military bases around the world, and to exhaust the nations coffers and productive capacity in continuous military operations since 1950.

      I am not impressed by arguments to the contrary…but I am patient, and will wait for you to wake up.

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